Don’t Compare Your Investment Returns With Others (Especially On The Internet)

February 11th, 2019
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Investors are competitive people.

When I was a Wall Street trader, work was all about the P&L (profit & loss). Higher P&L meant higher bonuses and faster promotions. A low P&L could mean getting laid off.

Regular investors, like professional Wall Street traders, also want to get high investment returns. The better your investment returns, the more money you’ll have for retirement, vacations, philanthropy, or other financial goals.

Everyone wants to know how their investments are doing. But more importantly, everyone wants to know how their investments are doing, compared to others.

At water coolers and doctor’s lounges, physicians love to compare their winners with others. The losing trades conveniently get forgotten.

But discussing your investment returns (or even looking at them) can sow seeds of discontent and envy, and may ultimately be counterproductive.

Everything is a Competitive Game

The need to compare ourselves with others stems from our competitive nature. This competitiveness can motivate you and drive you to work harder and do better.

The competitions and comparisons happen in sports, business, and life.

In any competitive game, people like to keep score. In sports, the rules are well-defined and the scoreboard is clear.

Winning feels good, not just for whatever prize you might receive but also for bragging rights amongst your friends or colleagues.

For some, life is a competitive game that is played to win. Whether it is having the nicest things, living the happiest life, or having the most money, we want more, and we compare our lives with those of others.

Social Media and Comparisons

Social media has made it easier than ever to compare our lives with others.

I’m sure you’ve read many articles describing how reading social media makes people less happy.

Just like sharing only your stock winners at the doctor’s lounge, many people only share their joys and successes with their friends on social media.

Everyone’s kids look so perfect and smiling in the photos on Facebook. That’s strange, because I have to scream at my kid “Smile! Look at the camera!” a hundred times before I’ll get one photo where one is smiling and the other is looking away.

Look at the camera!

In viewing the success and joys of others, we often create negative self-comparisons and feel inadequate about our own lives.

The Internet Feeds On Your Insecurity About Your Investment Returns

As we all know, no one talks about how they sold at the bottom of the market in 2009. No one talks about how they bought bitcoin for $12,000. They talk about how they bought Amazon in 1996. They talk about how they bought Bitcoin when it was $100.

When you’re feeling bad about your investment returns (whether you’ve lost money or made less money than you think you should have), the Internet is ready to sell you newsletters and other products.

I scrolled through some of the advertisements on Yahoo! Finance, and look what I found:

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I know whether the stock market will go up or down in the future, and I’ll tell you in my paid newsletter rather than make billions of dollars for myself…

He must really know what he’s talking about. Let me click through and learn about his paid newsletter…

Here’s the next ad on the same page:

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Tell me more! Tell me more! (Don’t you wish this wasn’t just a screenshot so you could click through and learn more?)

What am I doing wrong? I’m still working at the hospital and flying coach on commercial, while this guy is flying private after he made millions trading from home.

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Motley Fool is a stock picking website that plasters the internet with ads.

Here’s how they pitch themselves on their homepage:

Index fund investors bought all of these stocks as well…

My index funds never go up 14,680%. How am I missing out on investment returns that others are getting?

Comparing Investment Returns, Index-Fund Investor Style

I’m sure you’re saying to yourself that you’d never fall for those ads.

You know that stock picking and trading are losing strategies.

That’s why you invest in low-cost index funds and stay the course.

However, comparing investments returns with others isn’t just for Wall Street traders and armchair stock pickers.

Index fund investors compare their investment returns, too.

There is a longstanding thread on Bogleheads called “What are you up YTD?”, which asks readers to post their investment returns from January 1st to the current date (year-to-date or YTD).

Despite the fact that the Bogleheads forum community is all about index funds, passive investing, and staying the course, the selection bias in who chooses to post in these threads from year-to-year is noticeable.

In 2018, with the S&P 500 down 6%, you see a lot of people posting about stock/bond asset allocations of 60/40 and 50/50 portfolios.

In 2017, on the other hand, with the S&P 500 up 19%, a lot more of the younger readers with stock-heavy portfolios posted their returns.

These types of threads are one of the downsides of internet forums, for all the good they do in promoting discussion and a way to learn about topics.

If forums are used as an area of comparison, it can make users feel inadequate instead of empowering them to improve and do better.

I think this response in the Bogleheads YTD thread by LaLearning summarizes how you should think about your investment returns, as well as those of others:

Conclusion

It might be surprising to some people, but I have no idea how my portfolio did in 2018.

I probably lost money in 2018, because I invest in index funds and the indices fell in 2018.

I suppose if I calculated my investment returns and wrote a post about it, it would generate a lot of clicks.

But instead, I wrote this article, encouraging you to avoid comparing your returns with others.

To use a sports cliche, focus on the process of making good investment decisions, and the results will take care of themselves.

What do you think? Do you enjoy reading about other people’s investment returns? Does it make you feel better or worse about your own investments?

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  2. Welcome back! Hope you had a great month off.

    I think tracking your own returns is a useful exercise. Comparing them to those of others? Not so useful. In fact, it often provokes anxiety. Our 401(k) provider ranks us by percentile for 401(k) performance. I took sign out this am from a partner who was very worried that his were pretty low and he was anxious to hire someone to tell him what his allocation should be.

  4. Just another way to avoid trying to keep up with the Dr. Joneses. I also don’t pay too much attention to how my portfolio is doing. It won’t make any difference in what I do this year, so why bother taking the time to figure it out. If I don’t know how mine did, I can’t compare it to anyone else’s plan. Don’t order a test if the results will not alter your plan. I’m going to add this article to my Fawcett’s Favorites this Monday. Thanks.

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  5. I like to compare everything! But too myself…
    For instance, how much did I save this month compared to February 2018?
    As for others, I gave up comparing myself to them a while ago. The only place I still compare myself is in the blogosphere. So now that you posted something, I am going to have to get my act together and blog something too 🙂

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  6. You know, if I hadn’t looked at my performance in 2018 to write a post about how inconsequential the December decline was I’d have no idea what my return was. It’s not actionable so why would I track it?

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  9. Thanks for posting! Great reminder. I don’t really know what my returns are either, but growth for me at this point is still from savings rate more than anything else.

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